Honor between Warriors



Honor between Warriors



Remember warriors one and all

those who have fallen, those who are falling and those who will fall.

Beyond pleasures' grasp it can be told that which holds us transcends the moment.

Gettysburg, San Juan Hill and doughboys too.

Korea, Vietnam and now Iraq.

And if you see a veteran say thanks warriors and brothers through and through and through.

Against the odds and Honor between Warriors


I have two dvds which give me inspiration.

One is The Battle Of Britain where the RAF outnumbered 4 to 1 turned back the might of the Luftwaffe. In a similar manner the frot movement faces a much larger opponent. With the same determination we can do the same. The land of Halloween and Alice In Wonderland will not prevail!

The other dvd Zulu displays honor among warriors. The Zulu warriors were so impressed by the bravery of a small detachment of British solders that they raised their shields in respect and turned away. Do not expect the honor of our opponents to be the same. They do not value life or each other.

With respect to the Alliance I bid you well.



What is a Frotpot? It is any three dimensional object. It could be an empty coffee can, a bowel, ashtray, even an empty shoe. You also need chickenfeed, that is to say small change someone finds in his pocket every day.

Every day place the chickenfeed into the Frotpot. At the end of thirty days a tidy sum can be used for a donation. We need more Frotpots and certainly more chickenfeed. It's painless easy to do and supports a noble cause.

A True Warrior


When I was only 18 years old I met a man, his name was Henry Yoda. He was a mild mannered man, unassuming, not pretentious in any way. We became friends right away. Henry would invite me to his home where we shared food and conversation. One day when I was visiting Henry he revealed to me that he was a 6th degree black belt judo instructor. But that was only part of the story. Henry was a vetran of the Korean War, the forgotten war some people say. He won the Distinguished Service Cross for exemplery valor. Singlehandedly he knocked out six Soviet T54 tanks. He was wounded in battle and lost a lung for which he earned the Purple heart. To be chosen by him is a high honor. Henry was a true warrior in every way body, mind and spirit.

If you have seen the DVD The Last Samurai it gives you a glimpse of what honor means in Japanese culture. It is hard to explain unless you have recieved such honor from someone who is Japanese himself. It is validation of spirit and strength which made me proud. Our relationship was not sexual but Henry was my mentor. How can one describe a David who slew six Goliaths that is six Soviet T-54 tanks. If I could sit in his shadow I would bow my head.

Faithfully yours my frot friends

Bill Weintraub

Re: A True Warrior


Thank you rm.

This is from the obit of a WW II Medal of Honor winner:

While taking part in a Veterans Day parade in Minneapolis in 1969, Mr. Rudolph told The Washington Post: "When I see that flag, it does something to me inside. I want to jump up and salute."

But his actions that drew the Medal of Honor, his wife said, were simply a matter of soldiers watching out for one another. "The fellas in his unit relied on him for leadership," Mrs. Rudolph told The Herald-Review of Grand Rapids in 2004. "He felt it was his duty to protect them because they were going to protect him."

That's as good a definition of warrior altruism as I've heard.

And warrior altruism is the key element in male bonding.

Which should really be termed WARRIOR BONDING.

Because that's what it is.

Men bond -- so as to be WARRIORS.

Thank you again rm for this and all your other posts -- which are excellent.

I miss my friend -- Memories of a small boy


I havent seen my friend Rick in almost two years. When I first met him he was suffering from pnuemonia and malnutrition. I took him in, it was a moral imparitive. One thing I learned that he was a wrestler in high school. That set the ground for many enjoyable encounters. I loved sparring with Rick. He used various holds on me I liked the feeling of the physical tension between us. He knew just how much pressure to use, he never hurt me at all. Now all I can do is wait to hear a knock on my door and there he will be.

What has happened to men these days no horseplay no sparring. What has happened to comradery? What I see now is a bunch of overfed men whose only contact with the world is a laptop and sterile conversation. I want no part of that I want the company of MEN like my friend Rick. When I was a small boy I can remember seeing young guys walking down the sidewalk sometimes three abreast their arms wrapped around each other. We had our own homemade clubhouse and some times we would have "fights" with other boys in the neighborhood. It was not the same thing as gangbangers you see in the hood. We were just like our ancestors had done for countless generations learning to be WARRIORS. NOW WE'RE IN THE TRENCHES! I AM NOT AFRAID OF CLONES. I will do my best in this endeavor to be your standard bearer no matter what may happen.

Your faithful servant

An electrical demonstration


Have you ever seen a Van De Graf generator? If you have it can be a hair raising experience. It is two phallic looking objects which discharge a bolt of static electricity when the potential is strong to overcome the resistance of the air. In an analogous manner when two men are having D2D sex exchange energy is built up and the energy is released as an orgasm which is experienced by both men. Anal sex is nothing compared to this. If I were to demonstrate this to a group of analists without them knowing about what was to happen they would get the hairaising experience of their lives. We as Frot brothers have always known about this, but we donít have to have a machine give us a hairaising experience.

At your service

Broadening our base


Your use of phallic symbols and the Apollo archetype is a good starting point. A warrior is a protector and a provider. If you are aware of Carl Jung's definitions of the male archetypes a male is represented by four basic symbols: warrior, father (logo), mystic or priest or shaman, and child. The father is the ethos (logo), he is conscience, ethics and virtue. The shaman helps a man understand that part of his universe that he cannot understand otherwise. A man who can understand his dreams is a good example of his shaman. Last but definitely not least is the child. The positive child is curious, playful full of imagination. The negative child is selfish, demanding and destructive. A child is close to nature. We as males have all of these attributes. When the +child combines with the warrior this results in sparring, wrestling, horseplay etc. It is enjoyable, relaxing and maintains bonds between men. In the analist group all there is, is the negative child. He is the singularity point of a black hole. He devours every young man that crosses his event horizon. We as men need to include all of these archetypes if we are to sucessfully defeat the analist culture. We as Apollo Father Mystic and +Child can serve as good role models to young men who are just beginning to be on their own. We as Frotmen by example can fully act as men by exemplifying these qualities in our everyday lives.

Your faceless friend

Going fishing


Want to go fishing? Do you want to catch a warrior? All you need is some spare time, some patience and a game of war. What is this game? Chess! Simply go to any place where people are passing by, set up your board and wait. You do not have to be a grandmaster or a Bobby Fischer or a Kasporov -- I'm certainly not! Have some fun meet new people. No bars, no bathhouses just fresh air sunshine and a good time.

analism a form of scat / oralism = cannibalism


We all know what scat is. A form of sex that involves feces to come into contact with any part of the body from sexual contact. If you were to tell the analists that they are scatboys they would look at you in disbelief. That is all they are, scatboys!

On another topic now. When an effeminate male ingests the semen of another man he is consuming millions of living cells into his body. By ingesting the living fluid he seeks to incorporate another man's masculinity as a part of himself. Do not let this happen my friends!

Greg Milliken

Re: analism a form of scat / oralism = cannibalism


From time to time I read the craigslist posting in my area because you can learn a lot from an idiot.

One time I came across a posting where someone was either looking to "fuck" or "be fucked" by a guy -- and in the same post said he's not into shit.

I wonder what world he lives on where fucking or being fucked in the ass doesn't involve shit?

Which makes me conclude that this guy, along with thousands of others, would really benefit from a world where shit sex isn't prevalent. I wonder how many other guys out there don't want their sex lives to involve feces but have convinced themselves anal is necessary and doesn't *really* involve shit.

I guess denial is more powerful than reality for a lot of guys.


Re: analism a form of scat / oralism = cannibalism


Greg, you are so right. So many men are running down a path of denial to an early grave. As Bill has said clearly so many times...the evidence is clear. ANAL KILLS...condoms or no condoms...ANAL KILLS...and you can't convince me that either partner involved in anal is ever really satisfied, ever fulfilled. They can't be, because anal kills a man physically, mentally, and spiritually.

Frot gives LIFE to a man physically, mentally, and spiritually. I KNOW because I am a FROT MAN, and my life is rich. Frot is real, basic, primal, masculine, and I believe sacred...there is NOTHING like the bonding of two warriors brothers face-to-face, dick-to-dick, heart-to-heart.

The analists don't know what they are missing...they are in MAJOR denial, their heads buried in the sand and their dicks buried in shit.


Working for nothing


Bill puts a lot of time and effort in on our behalf. When you go to work, don't you put in time and effort? Do you expect to be paid? Then why do you expect Bill to work for nothing. He is not a slave! If you do not donate then you are calling Bill slave by default! Bill is a warrior not a slave! I challenge everyone to donate. If any one does not answer this challenge then you get off this site! We don't need paper tigers we need warriors!


Re: Working for nothing


I believe in Bill's work. I BELIEVE IN BILL!

I get paid every two weeks, and after I found this site and found the liberation for my life that I so needed and wanted, I promised myself that I would donate from every paycheck.

I just made my regular donation...not a lot, but EVERY DOLLAR MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!! Just imagine how much could be done if evey man who visits the sites donated $1.00! The results could CHANGE LIVES on a grand scale!

Be a MAN and DONATE!




Bill Weintraub

Re: Working for nothing


Thank you both Rm and David.

I appreciate all your kind words.

You're both True Warriors.

Guys -- David is right -- a little each month from each guy would do it.

Rm suggested a "Frotpot" -- any container will do, just put your spare change in there every day, and send it in once a month.

These are easy and reasonable suggestions.

Guys -- the people opposed to us have budgets in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Hundreds of millions.

I just posted about how in Australia, they have an $812 million budget aimed mainly at "AIDS prevention."

Which in Australia is condom campaigns.

That's $812 MILLION spent to deliver this message to gay and bi men:


The effect of that message is to IDENTIFY MALE-MALE SEX WITH ANAL PENETRATION.

And in that regard it's been very successful and will no doubt continue to be.

Is it successful in preventing new HIV infections?


Last year there was an increase in MSM HIV infections in Australia and New Zealand.

As there was in the United States.

As there was EVERYWHERE where condom campaigns were the only or predominant form of HIV prevention.

Condom campaigns do not work.

What we have to say does work.


Guys -- there is NO WAY I can do what you want me to do with NO MONEY.



But with a lttle money, we could have a surprisingly large impact.

Because we're telling the TRUTH.

Let me talk about that for a moment.

Yesterday, a guy named Mike who'd posted on this site a couple times before wrote to me asking that his posts be taken down.


Because, he explained, he doesn't want his "femmy" gay friends googling his email address and finding that he'd posted on a site which endorses Masculinity and is, horror of horrors, critical of effeminacy.

Yet, this man first posted in 2003, and our position on effeminacy then was not one jot different than it is today:

Effeminacy is a self-oppressive behavior which buys into the primary lie about men who have sex with men -- that they're not really men.

In his first post, Mike said he agreed with us:

Finding this site and seeing all the other masculine-oriented men here has been a godsend for me. It's caused me to remember growing up in the country in Arkansas, playing in the forest, not able to find another boy to express myself with sexually but still treasuring my masculinity. I remember retreating into an effeminacy that really wasn't me when I hit puberty because my fundamentalist upbringing had taught me that men who loved men couldn't really be men. By "effeminacy," I don't mean gentleness, the strong, caring kind that my dad had and has. That's a good quality I want to keep. I mean the bitchy queeniness, the self-pity and all that crap you all already know about.

Furthermore, this is a man who when he first came to us, had just lost his lover to AIDS, and said,

I did get socialized into the gay world enough to try using dildos on myself and actually convinced myself for awhile that I liked it.

But Stephen's death shocked me awake, even though his health had been on a slow, predictable decline for a long time. I threw out the dildos, realize that they were a part of the culture that had killed my man in the first place.


That's what dildos are.

Part of a deadly culture.

Suppose this site hadn't been here?

Would Mike have gone back to those dildos?

Would he still be uninfected?

And now that he doesn't want to be here -- now that he thinks we're too critical of the very same culture which by his own admission "killed his man," will he be able, guided by those caring peers of his, his FEMMY friends, to stay HIV or HPV or hep C free?


And everywhere else in the culture -- as we just saw in the post titled Channeling Judy.

If it was up to them, we'd all be channeling Judy and getting fucked up our femmy shitholes.

What's the point?

Why should we soften our stance on effeminacy?

So that these femmy idiots can further their self-destructive and hateful hegemony?

J-M Andriote, the gay HIV journalist who got infected with HIV but claims he doesn't want to know how, also wants to be able to dicate policy on this site.

He wants to determine who says what about his work.

Yet look at the world they've made.


I now feel a sense of healing within myself, as if living with HIV has helped me finally know that I'm loved and cared for. I'm learning to be present to my own suffering, and not to detach from my sadness.

What a message to send out to gay kids, many of whom are estranged from their families:

"Living with HIV" will help you know that you're loved and cared for.

And you'll learn "to be present to your own suffering" -- whatever the fuck that means -- "and not to detach from your sadness."


And can't you be loved and cared for without having a fatal disease?

Is that how emotionally impoverished your life was, that the only way you could be cared for was by making yourself deathly ill?

What these people have done is turned "gay life" into a DEATH CULT.

They're the CULTISTS.

And when we dare to object, they threaten.

Or they piously clasp their hands and say, Your language is too harsh.



We celebrate LIFE.

We honor LIFE.



Guys, I'm loved and cared for by my husband -- in sickness and in HEALTH.

And, speaking as someone who's 58, plenty of suffering will come your way in this life -- you don't need MORE in the form of HIV.

That's the message we need to get out.

Not -- no matter what you do, you'll get infected.

That's NOT TRUE.

It matters what you do.

And here's another TRUTH.




Mike objects to my calling males who do anal -- shitfairies.

But, using his own word, these are "femmys" who are into shitholes.

So, I guess instead of calling them shitfairies, we can just call them shitfemmys.

Fact is, I've tried for years to be polite to these people and it doesn't work.

Something has to be said to shake them out of their complacency, and I've learned that the word "shit" is effective -- because it punches through their denial about what really goes down during their "sex" lives.

Guys, we're in a war.

Not just about "men who have sex with men" -- but about life itself.

What is life about?

Is it about life?

Or is about death?

When we have sex, do we celebrate the organs of generation?

Or an organ of fecal excretion?

When we're in a relationship, do we strive to be faithful and true?

Or do we look to have as many encounters as we can?

Do we as Men cherish our Masculinity and exalt our Manhood?

Or do we deny our manliness, and seek to effeminize, to become something neither male nor female, a creature, as Robert Loring says, that was never meant to be?

And how do we regard disease?

As friend or foe?

When I was in the hospital, it took the staff a week to diagnose what was wrong.

Once they had, they brought me a special antibiotic, a liquid, in a cup, three times a day.

I would sip it, slowly.

The nurse asked me if it tasted bad.

I said No.

I said I'm sipping it because I want every drop of it to get into my body so that it can kill the pathogen which has been trying to kill me.

There was nothing romantic about the hospital, or that disease.

Or any disease.

But certain elements in the gay male community have created a cult around HIV, and around the unnatural and deadly act which transmits it.

And rather than eliminate this disease from that community, which could easily be done, they turn a blind eye to the ever increasing numbers of gay men infected.

That is wrong.

It is immoral.

And I will fight it so long as I have breath.

Help me.

Help yourself.

Help your fellow Warriors, the Men who are your Brothers.


© All material Copyright 2006 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.

Bill G

Re: Working for nothing


You're right Bill, it is a cult. but not just a death cult, I believe it's part of a larger "victim" cult. People have been conditioned to accept being a victim in this country. Being a victim gets you sympathy, gets you attention, sometimes gets you money. But in the end being a victim to HIV/Aids only gets you death. Not a starring role in a Hollywood/Broadway love tragedy

Guys don't be victims! Help Bill spread the word by donating. Just like the above poster, finding this site changed my life and how I viewed myself, don't deny that to others.

Bill G

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