fightclub909@yahoo.com

7-25-2004

Re: physical closeness - like between brothers - but not making love

Your not as unique as you think. This article is something I'm sure you and alot of other men on this site can relate to.

Blake Tyler McGee

[sorry guys -- link isn't working]

boomer

Leo

Re: physical closeness - like between brothers - but not making love

7-25-2004

I agree Tomas. I think most men in our society really crave the emotional intimacy like between brothers or friends, not necessarily anything sexual. I'm sure most men love their wives, girlfriends, what have you. However, everyone has this duality in each of them saying that I need something that a woman can not give me. There are some things you can not discuss with your wives because they simply will not understand. They don't understand the urge or emotional craving. A lot of guys I know love to spend the weekends with their buddies fishing, hiking, watching sports on tv, anything they can enjoy together. Do you really want to partake in these activities with a wife or girlfriend? I don't think so. I understand completely where Tomas is coming from.

Leo

Tomas

7-29-2004

Re: physical closeness - like between brothers - but not making love

Thanks boomer. I read Blake Tyler McGee's article in the Georgetown Voice of 4 October 2001. If another man and I hug each other, and we simultaneously affirm our masculinity, I actually like it, whereas Blake doesn't seem to. I want a physical relationship with another man, but I don't actually want to make love with him. I share the feeling that is expressed in one particular picture of two men that is posted on this website, but I don't want to do what those two men are doing, even if I were to feel like it.

Thank you too, Leo. I do have a strong desire for physical and emotional intimacy with another man - just one man - but not sexual intimacy. It is important to me that that man understand frot, however.

I like the way boomer speaks out. Like him and Bill, I am disgusted with solitary cowardice and furtive peeping. I think that Leo and I may be looking for the same kind of relationship with another man.

Tomas

KENT

Re: physical closeness - like between brothers - but not making love

8-23-2004

re: closeness like brothers, Thank you for the posting and the opportunity to read the response of others. There are many of us who feel the same and deal with the feelings without the sexual expression for several reasons that fit our life style. I could not relay such feelings to my wife and family and I know I would welcome the friendship with a man. Thank you for allowing me to be honest with myself.

Tomas

Re: physical closeness - like between brothers - but not making love

8-24-2004

Thanks, Kent. It was liberating for me to discover the truth about my own feelings, and, like you to tell the truth to myself.

Leo wrote that there are some things that men cannot discuss with their wives because they simply will not understand. He said that they don't understand the urge or emotional craving. Kent wrote that he could not relay his feelings to his wife. I think that wives learn to read their husbands' hearts in every expression on their faces, in every glance, and in every movement. Words are a very important means of communication, but we all communicate with one another all the time in nonverbal ways. Perhaps we are more truthful about ourselves in our unconscious physical movements than in what we say, especially when we are children. Then, unfortunately we learn to hide the truth about ourselves behind words and deeds. I don't like to talk much about my own wife, because I know that she is better able to speak for herself than I would be. However, I do want to let you know that I told her about my strong desire for physical closeness with another man - just one man - last October. I also told her that I don't desire sexual intimacy with anybody but her.

Tomas