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WARRIOR GREG MILLIKEN

Greg Milliken

What choice?

10-10-2005

Gay men and women often respond to the argument that homosexuality is a choice with the rebuttal of "Who would choose to live a life full of hatred, shame and fear?" It's a good argument, although it relies on the assumption that being homosexual necessarily means that one will face hatred, shame and fear. We at the alliance realize that these aren't necessary components of a life based on frot, fidelity and masculinity.

What do you think would happen if you went out and asked gay men, "Would you like to live in a world where HIV and other diseases didn't plague the gay community, gay bashing never occurred and more people found satisfaction in their relationships, would you want to be a part of that world?"

They would say yes. Almost invariably (I'm sure there are bug chasers and similar psychopaths who would say no) they would say yes.

If given the choice gay men would overwhelmingly choose to live in a world like that described above.

So why don't they?

Because of the BFD.

What about the BFD?

The condom campaigns.

How many times have you read something along the lines of "Gay and bisexual men are among the highest risk group for HIV and AIDS"?

Is that really true? Are gay and bisexual men at risk to catch HIV?

I guess it depends how you define gay and bisexual. If by gay and bisexual you mean a bunch of anally promiscuous men, then the above statement is true. If by gay and bisexual you mean men who overwhelmingly chose frot as their preferred method of sexual intercourse and avoid anal penetration entirely then that line is propaganda and bullshit.

As are the condom campaigns.

They don't help people avoid diseases and HIV. They encourage people to engage in behaviors that are directly correlated with the spread of HIV and AIDS. People who, if given the choice, would live in a world that all the problems with being gay don't exist.

Why would someone want to spread the propaganda message to young, impressionable gay and bisexual men that anal penetration IS gay sex? I can give you two reasons:

1) They want gay men to engage in behaviors that will put them at high risk for HIV and other diseases.

2) They want gay men to get sick and die from these diseases.

Please note that I am not suggesting a conspiracy whereby the above two reasons were deliberately planned and accounted for. Instead, I am pointing out the objective reality of a well-intentioned program where the original goal was to save lives and prevent the spread of disease.

But after 30 years of condom campaigns, it has become obvious that those two reasons have become the intentions of those on either side of the battle of straight vs. gay.

On the one side we have the fundamentalist religious groups who want to see all gay people dead from debilitating diseases.

On the other we have the Buttfuck Dictatorship that wants us to bend over and get fucked in the ass, regardless of the fact that this will result in our death from debilitating diseases.

Two groups, one end result.

And you are the target.

I'm not talking about conspiracies. I'm not talking about death camps. I'm not talking about Planned genocide.

I'm talking about reality. I'm talking about the only reality that can exist with the given set of preconditions.

I'm talking about the only reality that can exist if condom camaigns are the only proposed solution to AIDS.

The war has begun. The enemy is entrenched. They have money, they have power, they have influence.

But they can't win if we fight.

Because we have something they don't have.

The truth.

Gay doesn't equal anal.

Men who love men don't want anal sex.

Men aren't psuedo-women.

Two loving men aren't an abomination, they are beautiful.

Homosex isn't a sin, sodomy is.

This is the truth. It is your sword and your shield.

But it is useless without the will to use it.

So stand and fight.

Or bend over and die.


Bill Weintraub

Re: What choice?

10-11-2005

Thanks Greg -- an excellent and important post.

Greg says, "I'm talking about the only reality that can exist if condom campaigns are the only proposed solution to AIDS."

Greg is correct about that.

If you assume, as the condom campaigners do, that anal and promiscuity are inevitabilities -- they become inevitabilities.

That's what the fight was about in Uganda.

I know that many of you don't understand why we talk about Uganda.

But in Uganda, the condom campaigners, who were mainly white Americans and Europeans and also, very often, *gay male analist* Americans and Europeans, said that hetero Africans could not be expected to change their sexual behavior, that they were irredeemably promiscuous, and that the best you could do was aggressively distribute condoms.

Ugandan President Museveni said, No.

He said, 'If you tell people they're going to die if they're promiscuous, they'll stop being promiscuous.'

Because Africans aren't children.

They're adults, and they understand that actions have consequences.

So that's what the Ugandans did.

And they didn't spend a lot of money because they don't have a lot of money.

They didn't waste millions of dollars on ad agencies and focus groups.

They did it on the cheap:

And it worked.

For twelve consecutive years, HIV prevalence in Uganda has declined.

While it has soared in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa.

So: Cultural assumptions matter.

I often say, you get what the culture says you'll get.

In most sub-Saharan African countries, the assumption was made, usually by white people, that Africans could not control their promiscuity.

So they didn't.

In Uganda, the assumption was made, by Africans, that Africans could control their sex lives.

So they did.

It's really that basic.

You can point to other issues such as the status of women or poverty; but as James Chin, who's one of the world's leading AIDS epidemologists, has said to me and to the rest of world, factors such as the status of women and poverty do NOT matter absent the presence of HIV risk behaviors.

A country can be desperately poor, but remain free of HIV.

Women can be oppressed, but remain free of HIV.

It's risk behavior which matters.

NOT anything else.

In Uganda, they eliminated the risk behavior, and HIV prevalence plummeted.

Frot men eliminate the risk behavior -- and they don't get HIV.

Even though many Frot men are gay.

As Greg correctly points out, being gay does not put you "at risk" for HIV / AIDS.

DOING ANAL puts you at risk.

NOT being gay.

Nevertheless, what the AIDS Service Organizations (ASOs) and safer sex boyz have done is say to gay men that you cannot and SHOULD NOT eliminate the risk behavior.

As a consequence, HIV infection rates among "men who have sex with men" continue to skyrocket.

HIV prevalence among American gay men is higher than in most African countries.

The level of disease is "Third World."

And it's not just America.

Here's a report from Germany:

Germany Reports 20% Increase in HIV Cases in First Half of 2005

Category: HIV/AIDS News

Article Date: 09 Oct 2005

The number of HIV cases in Germany reached 1,164 in the first six months of 2005, a 20% increase over the first half of 2004, according to the Robert Koch Institute, the government's central disease control center, Reuters Health reports. Men who have sex with men account for nearly 60% of the new HIV cases, RKI said, adding that the group's risk of contracting HIV is now nearly double that of 12 years ago. RKI also said that German males are 7.5 times as likely as females in the country to contract the disease, and most HIV-positive men are between ages 25 and 45. Women have the highest risk of contracting HIV through sexual contact with males from high-risk groups, such as men from countries with a high prevalence of HIV/AIDS, injection drug users and MSM, according to RKI. "The German health minister considers this a serious development and says the rise in HIV infections is worrying," ministry spokesperson Dagmar Reitenbach said in a news conference (Charbonneau, Reuters Health, 10/5). Reinhardt Kurth, RKI president, said, "We must tell people that despite ... more efficient treatment, AIDS cannot be healed" (AFP/Yahoo! News, 10/5). UNAIDS Executive Director Peter Piot said on Monday that the number of HIV cases across Europe is increasing. According to EU statistics, the number of newly reported HIV cases in the EU has almost doubled since 1996 (Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS Report, 10/4).

[emphases mine]

So: in the first six months of 2005, Germany -- which during that time had a leftist, not a Bushite, government, and was aggressively distributing condoms -- had a 20% increase in HIV prevalence, of which SIXTY PERCENT (60%) was among gay and bi men.

And the liberal European Union countries as a whole have seen a doubling of HIV prevalence in the last decade.

Guys -- if you were director of marketing for Honda, and your sales campaigns had resulted in Toyota DOUBLING its market share -- you'd be fired.

Not in the world of AIDS prevention.

HIV infection rates double, and you get a promotion and the equivalent of tenure.

So you have folks out there pushing, in the name of AIDS prevention, anal and promiscuity, and the result is more AIDS:

And more anal.

Anal begets AIDS.

AIDS begets anal.

Just like Greg said:

Condom campaigns don't help people avoid diseases and HIV. They encourage people to engage in behaviors that are directly correlated with the spread of HIV and AIDS. People who, if given the choice, would live in a world that all the problems with being gay don't exist.

He's right.

Greg then asks:

Why would someone want to spread the propaganda message to young, impressionable gay and bisexual men that anal penetration IS gay sex? I can give you two reasons:

1) They want gay men to engage in behaviors that will put them at high risk for HIV and other diseases.

2) They want gay men to get sick and die from these diseases.

Please note that I am not suggesting a conspiracy whereby the above two reasons were deliberately planned and accounted for. Instead, I am pointing out the objective reality of a well-intentioned program where the original goal was to save lives and prevent the spread of disease.

But after 20 years of condom campaigns, it has become obvious that those two reasons have become the intentions of those on either side of the battle of straight vs. gay.

On the one side we have the fundamentalist religious groups who want to see all gay people dead from debilitating diseases.

On the other we have the Buttfuck Dictatorship that wants us to bend over and get fucked in the ass, regardless of the fact that this will result in our death from debilitating diseases.

Two groups, one end result.

And you are the target.

I'm not talking about conspiracies. I'm not talking about death camps. I'm not talking about Planned genocide.

I'm talking about reality. I'm talking about the only reality that can exist with the given set of preconditions.

I'm talking about the only reality that can exist if condom campaigns are the only proposed solution to AIDS.

Greg's right.

Then Greg says:

The war has begun. The enemy is entrenched. They have money, they have power, they have influence.

But they can't win if we fight.

Because we have something they don't have.

The truth.

Gay doesn't equal anal.

Men who love men don't want anal sex.

Men aren't psuedo-women.

Two loving men aren't an abomination, they are beautiful.

Homosex isn't a sin, sodomy is.

This is the truth. It is your sword and your shield.

But it is useless without the will to use it.

So stand and fight.

Or bend over and die.

"Bend over and die."

Once again, Greg's right.

In The Ultimate Defeat, Robert Loring spells out just how destructive anal penetration is to the psyches and souls of gay men.

He talks about the degradation *inherent* in male penetrating male.

Robert's right.

As am I when I talk about, in The Ideology of Anal Penetration, the relationship among anal, promiscuity, and effeminacy -- APE.

Which is, that anal leads to effeminacy which leads to promiscuity:

and that in time these behaviors become self-reinforcing:

So, as Greg says, you know the truth, and the truth --

that Gay doesn't equal anal;

that Men who Love Men don't need anal;

that Men aren't pseudo-women;

that Two loving men aren't an abomination, they are beautiful; and

that Homosex isn't a sin, sodomy is --

the truth is your sword and your shield.

But you have to use that sword and that shield.

If you won't use them, you have to be prepared to bend over and die.

Because that's what will be forced upon you.

Analist culture is too strong.

Too much money, too much power, too much INFLUENCE.

Unless you actively oppose it, it will consume you.

And your one sweet life.

Anal penetration destroys men: pyschologically, spiritually, physically.

Do you want that to happen to you?

FIGHT BACK.

Save your life.










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