Robert Loring

Death of a Frot Brother

2-14-2006

Something has been on my mind for the past few days. It's a post I read on another message board from a man who grew up in a small town. This man posted that he got married, had children, etc. but was never happy because he lacked a close relationship with other males. To make a long story short, this man got divorced and moved into a city after deciding that he wanted to just be himself and not play the societal game any more. He had known for years that he was gay so he moved to the city so he could be his real gay self. But, as he posts, he had "no idea how to even be gay." And, he figured he'd eventually figure out how to be gay or someone would certainly teach him how to be gay.

It's the last part of this that has been on my mind for the past few days. The parts of his post where he states he had "no idea how to even be gay" and how he figured he'd eventually figure out how to be gay or someone would certainly teach him how to be gay. Later in his post he states that he hooked up with another gay dude who taught him "what gay sex" was "all about." He posts his surprise and somewhat disgust over discovering that to be gay and have sex required anal penetration. But, he accepted this sexual practice because he felt it was "a part" of who he really is (ie: a gay male). And, he also posted that prior to learning what being gay was all about he had never had anal sex with another man. While he was still living in the small town he grew up in he had upon occasion engaged in frot with other males but these encounters never entailed anal. Up to the point of moving to the city and learning what being gay really meant, this man had done what came NATURAL to him and other males in the small town (ie: frot). But, having once arrived in the city and "learning what being gay is" this man was indoctrinated into analism and he accepted it EVEN though he expresses his surprise and disgust over the practice.

I find it interesting how this man posted that he "learned how to be gay." I found it interesting that he though surely someone would TEACH him how to be gay because he didn't even know how to be gay even though he saw himself as a gay male. So this dude moved to the city and quickly LEARNED how to be gay. This dude thought that frot was the natural sex between two men UNTIL he was TAUGHT that it was not and that anal was the "natural sex" between men.

He was TAUGHT and he LEARNED and he CONFORMED to the analists! Why? Because he thought that to be a gay male demands one engage in anal sex with another male. He thought this because he was TAUGHT this was so by one of the analists he hooked up with when he moved to the city! Apparently, he had greatly enjoyed his frot experiences while still living in the small town he had grown up in. Apparently, he had thought that frot was NORMAL between males and this man had maintained his masculinity. BUT, once he moved to the city and hooked up with other gay males he quickly found out that what he had enjoyed and thought to be normal M2M sex was NOT acceptable in the BFD culture. And so, this masculine male who once loved to frot with other males was transformed into an effeminate butt-fucker as he conformed to the dictates of the BFD and the world has LOST yet ANOTHER MASCULINE MALE!

This dude accepted the BFD dictates EVEN though he found anal to be disgusting! He accepted it in order to "fit in" and "be accepted" by other gay males. He posted that he had enjoyed frot sex with other men BUT that he did not really like anal sex with other dudes and that he finds NOTHING pleasurable about it BUT he continues to engage in it because he is "gay and that is what other gays do" (ie: anal). His post on the other forum, BTW, alluded to feelings of suicide and it was very apparent that this man was NOT happy but was lost in the muck of depression and despair over feeling as if in order to love other men he had to engage in anal whether he liked it or not.

Here is yet one more male on his way to becoming a HIV statistic. Here is one more male whose natural masculinity and desire for frot has been nuked right out of the water! Here is one more LOST SOUL....thank you BFD!! It is dudes and stories like this that SHOULD MOTIVATE all of us on this site to START reaching out to our BROTHERS in ANY WAY we can BEFORE the tentacles of the BFD get ahold of them! Notice I said BROTHERS!! This guy was a FROT BROTHER until he moved to the city and was snatched up by the analists and he is now in process of being destroyed as he has watched his natural masculinity slip away and as he feels he is being forced into something he does not like (ie: analism) and all so he can just have a relationship with another man! He is literally sacrificing his life so he can have such a relationship.

What would have happened to this dude had he moved to the city and instead of finding analists he had found fellow frot brothers? He would have continued to enjoy NATURAL FROT and would have never engaged in analism. He would have held onto his NATURAL MASCULINITY and not lost it as he became more and more feminized by the BFD. And, he would have never been contemplating taking his own life! BUT, the city to which he moved into had no FROT outreach! His fellow frot warriors were hidden and silent! They lived in the SHADOWS! So, this man is but one more lost to the BFD and the hidden frot brothers in that city are just as guilty as the BFD analists for destroying this man...this BROTHER! And the guilt stems from INACTION!

This is happening in every city and town today and frequently. Guys who know frot is natural to males are being lost to the analists and they are ending up as HIV and suicide stats. WARRIORS DO NOT TURN THEIR BACKS ON THEIR FELLOW WARRIORS! Those who do turn their backs are DISHONORABLE men and not even true Warriors at all. They are only wannabes! REAL Warriors stand up for their brothers and help them fight their foes! Real Warriors support each other and encourage each other. They DON'T destroy each other and they do NOT allow each other to be DESTROYED! They REACH OUT and help their own BEFORE it's too late!

In this case, I am reaching out to this man...this BROTHER...who has become LOST. In this case I am reaching out and pulling this brother BACK into the arms of Warriors! I am sending this dude the message LOUD and CLEAR that butt-fucking is NOT normal nor is it acceptable to all men who like other men. Is it too late for this message? I suppose I shall soon find out!!

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Bill Weintraub

Re: Death of a Frot Brother

2-16-2006

Thank you Robert.

This is a very important post about that analist acculturation process which most of us who are gay-identified have seen over and over and over again.

This guy was a FROT BROTHER until he moved to the city and was snatched up by the analists and he is now in process of being destroyed as he has watched his natural masculinity slip away and as he feels he is being forced into something he does not like (ie: analism) and all so he can just have a relationship with another man! He is literally sacrificing his life so he can have such a relationship.

We've seen this in our own lives and read about it on this board over and over and over again.

So the question is, not whether this happens.

Because we know it happens and constantly.

The question is: what are YOU going to do about it?

Robert:

What would have happened to this dude had he moved to the city and instead of finding analists he had found fellow frot brothers? He would have continued to enjoy NATURAL FROT and would have never engaged in analism.

That's correct.

Is there anyone reading this who can demonstrate that Robert's wrong?

If this guy who was into Frot had found fellows in the city, would he not still be into Frot?

And if he'd found a culture which supported Fidelity, would he not make that his model?

Robert:

He would have held onto his NATURAL MASCULINITY and not lost it as he became more and more feminized by the BFD. And, he would have never been contemplating taking his own life! BUT, the city to which he moved into had no FROT outreach! His fellow frot warriors were hidden and silent! They lived in the SHADOWS! So, this man is but one more lost to the BFD and the hidden frot brothers in that city are just as guilty as the BFD analists for destroying this man...this BROTHER! And the guilt stems from INACTION!

"no FROT outreach"

"fellow frot warriors were hidden and silent"

That man might have been the ideal life-long partner for some Frot man who longs for a partner.

Instead, "this man is but one more lost to the BFD and the hidden frot brothers in that city are just as guilty as the BFD analists for destroying this man..."

Right.

And those who don't have partners -- it's their own fault isn't it?

Because they won't lift a finger to help other men.

It's not complicated.

Doing a Regional Chapter in your town might take an hour or two per week.

But you won't do even that tiny little bit.

You'd rather spend your time surfing the net and jerking off.

So be it.

It's not complicated.

In every other area of your life, you take as a given that you get out of it what you put into it.

If you don't work hard at your job, you don't get a raise.

If you don't go to the gym, you don't get muscles.

If you don't go to the dojo, you don't learn how to fight.

But you want to believe, somehow, that getting involved in this effort, in this fight, is somehow optional.

It's not.

If you don't help your fellow Frot men ...

Robert:

This is happening in every city and town today and frequently. Guys who know frot is natural to males are being lost to the analists and they are ending up as HIV and suicide stats. WARRIORS DO NOT TURN THEIR BACKS ON THEIR FELLOW WARRIORS! Those who do turn their backs are DISHONORABLE men and not even true Warriors at all. They are only wannabes! REAL Warriors stand up for their brothers and help them fight their foes! Real Warriors support each other and encourage each other. They DON'T destroy each other and they do NOT allow each other to be DESTROYED! They REACH OUT and help their own BEFORE it's too late!

That's the truth:

"REAL Warriors stand up for their brothers and help them fight their foes! Real Warriors support each other and encourage each other. They DON'T destroy each other and they do NOT allow each other to be DESTROYED!"

Right -- if you're not helping your fellows, not only are you not a Warrior, but, I maintain, you're not a man.

Not as "MAN" has traditionally been defined in the West: a MAN is someone who takes an active part in caring for his fellows and IMPROVING HIS COMMUNITY.

That's why in Latin there's that connection:

vir -- virilis -- virtus

Warning: this man doesn't back away from a fight. Do you? A Tale of Two Tattoos

Man -- Masculinity -- Virtue

Virtue meaning -- having a sense of responsibility to one's fellows and acting on it.

In Yiddish we say of such a man that he's a MENSCH -- literally "a MAN."

Other cultures may say he has balls, or "heart."

What they all mean is that he doesn't back away from a fight.

When he sees something that needs to be done -- HE DOES IT.

And you ALL know this needs to be done.

Kyr just posted about feeling like a freak.

You know that.

You all know what goes down.

Kyr's post didn't break any new ground.

We've had posts like Kyr's since 2000.

Almost six years.

Are you gonna wait till 2012 and then maybe do something?

NO ONE IS GOING TO FREE YOU.

NO ONE IS GOING TO FIND YOU A PARTNER.

YOUR LIBERATION CAN ONLY BE THE WORK OF YOUR OWN HANDS.

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