Question
Question
11-07-2003
How does one guy approach another guy about frot? I have a friend who is a great guy. He's a strong, warm, considerate, masculine guy and we've become great friends. We hang out all the time, just the two of us. We've developed a strong friendship in the short time that we've know each other and I have to admit he's one of the best friends I have. I know he likes girls but I definately think he would enjoy frotting. He talks about how he loves holding, rubbing and making out. And he's so considerate of me as a person.
So if any of you warriors have any advice as to how to approach asking him, I would love to hear it. Maybe I shouldn't ask and just keep this great friendship going, but if he is into frot, our friendship could be stronger. The bottom line is I don't want to lose him as a friend but my curiousity is getting the best of me.
Later
Randy
Re: Question
11-11-2003
hi randy
the first thing to remember about your friend is that he almost certainly has same-sex needs and desires
so he's not straight in the sense of being exclusively heterosexual
he appears to be straight because he has a very strong erotic interest in women -- which is real, not fake
but being straight in that sense does not preclude having an erotic interest in men
we know from both anthropology and history that in societies which lack a divine prohibition against same-sex eroticism, most men -- indeed most people -- are bisexual
but in our society, because gay and straight are assumed to be mutually exclusive, men can and do use their genuine interest in women to hide their erotic interests in other men
so if you can approach your friend not as a straight man, but as a guy who, like other guys, has sexual needs and feelings, and if you can see him that way, you've made a start
of course, even accepting that he has same-sex feelings, he may not have them towards you
but your description of his conduct with you suggests that he certainly likes you
what you need to do then is structure time with him in which you're alone together and during which you might have the opportunity to bring up with him how you feel
to explain to him that you don't do anal sex, that you feel no connection to the gay community as it's commonly depicted
and that you're into frot
and explain what frot is, and how good it feels, and how hot it is for the guys doing it
and introduce him to the idea of phallic bonding, of bonding by holding your hard dicks together
those are powerful images and ideas for men
and they will be for your buddy too
it may take awhile -- he may need to think about what you've said for awhile before he feels ready to act in any way
if you think it's right for him, at some point you can refer him to the website and to posts from straight-identified guys like Beatific
and the hardest i've ever been
and of course all of Sensei Patrick's material:
all that will help him and give him a context
and basically he'll either respond to the pix of cock2cock on the site and on those pages -- or he won't
most guys do
that said, i was a little reluctant to let your post go up because, although i know that's not where you're coming from, in the past, those sorts of posts have elicited essays on how to seduce straight guys
we don't support seduction in any form on the site
and the last thing a straight guy coming onto the site wants to see is posts from gay men boasting about how they've "had" str8 guys
but we haven't gotten any posts like that so far, and maybe guys are beginning to get the message that this isn't about gay and straight
or about collecting sexual scalps
it's about guys being kind and loving and bonding with other guys
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