Bill Weintraub

Re: A true masculine man

4-18-09

Thank you Ryan -- for your courageous post and your brave life.

And welcome to the Alliance.

Guys, we're going to look at Ryan's letter line-by-line, as we often do, and then see what we can learn from his experience and his interpretation of it -- which is very important.

Here's Ryan's letter:

It takes me great courage to write to you after wondering around your site for some time.

That's correct -- it takes courage to write.

Ryan, that you found the COURAGE to write is one sign that you're in touch with your True and Manly Warrior nature.

And of course I'm very glad that you did write.

Even though you may have heard millions of times of such appreciation, I must reiterate how wonderful and amazing your site is, with devoted warriors keep on blazing the fire of the alliance.

Thank you Ryan.

And that's right also -- our devoted Warriors are the Men, who by posting and donating, keep blazing the fires of our Man2Man Alliance.

I am a guy from Hong Kong and have only just turned 18. The problem of homosexuality has been bewildering me.

Yes -- and that's not surprising.

There's a great deal of mis-information in the world today about same-sex needs and desires.

Ryan, what we hope you'll come to understand is that those desires are normal and natural.

As the Warrior I call "my foreign friend" says,

male sexual desire for men cannot be tied down to a minority group. Rather it is a universal male phenomenon, especially strong amongst masculine identified men

So Ryan -- your feelings for other guys are not "homosexual," and that you have those feelings does not make you "a homosexual."

You're just a Man -- a guy.

And like other guys, you have feelings of attraction towards -- other guys.

In this letter I would like to tell my story. Don't mind if my English is not good. After all, I am not a native speaker.

Ryan, your English is excellent.

And a lot better than my Chinese.

I can still remember the day when I first got my arousal towards men. It was an ordinary afternoon and I was a just a 10-year-old kid watching TV at home. A muscular kung fu guy happened to appear with his shirt off in a TV series and he broke a wooden board into two halves using his bare hand. His 6-packs and the way his muscles flexed kind of drove me into a weird feeling. It might not be an arousal, but rather more like affection and it was the time when I still didn't know how to jack off. I looked at my own body in front of a mirror and I told myself I really wanted to look like that guy on TV.

Right.

Ryan, once again, your attraction to that kung fu guy was and is normal and natural.

Men and boys are *strongly* attracted to Masculinity.

That's what they look for, that's what they seek -- in other Men.

So it was normal and natural for you, as a boy, and as a young man, to be attracted to that guy's Muscularity, Masculinity, and above all, his Fighting Spirit.

And to want to emulate it.

I started searching on the internet for bodybuilding sites where huge muscles guys are shown everything and slowly I found my affection towards these men has gone more intense than before. I can't remember just how but somehow I also learnt how to masturbate around the same time.

Right -- for most guys in our Western culture, at least, that just happens naturally.

Basically, they figure it out on their own.

The jacking-off thing kinda got connected with those muscular bodybuilders, whom they finally become my stimuli for jacking off.

Right -- and again, like I say, that's natural.

It's natural for Men to be attracted to and aroused by Masculinity.

Looking back I think the kung fu guy was the man who made my puberty started.

Yes -- and Ryan that makes sense.

And again, it's no accident that he was a kung fu guy doing a demonstration of his ability to Fight.

That's an intrinsic and core attribute of Masculinity, and extremely powerful, as NW points out in aggression and the beauty of guys, to both Men and boys.

Everything went on as usual until I came across something called homosexuality.

Yes.

Ryan, that happens to virtually every boy and Man who has the misfortune to live in a culture in which the concept of "homosexuality" is active.

It brutally disrupts his life.

I know, because it happened to me.

So, Ryan, I understand.

What's very important for you to understand is that "homosexuality" is a very recent concept among human beings.

In the past, sex between men was an activity -- something guys did.

Since 1869 -- that's just 140 years -- and to varying degree -- sex between men -- has been considered a condition -- "homosexuality."

That idea is wrong.

In reality, people in the past had it right: sex between men is an activity -- something guys normally and naturally do.

Ryan, the idea of male-male affection, intimacy, sex, and love as a condition -- first called "homosexuality" and then called "sexual orientation" -- is a function of an historical process we call heterosexualization.

And we need to talk about that a bit more.

So, and like I said, the terms "homosexuality" and "homosexual" were coined 140 years ago in an effort -- a successful effort -- to turn what had been an activity -- sex between men -- into a disease -- "homosexuality."

What that meant was that just as, in the 19th century, there were people who were "tubercular," and who suffered from the disease called "tuberculosis"; so now there were to be males who were said to be "homosexual," and who would be said to suffer from the disease called "homosexuality."

That was a tremendous shift in the way human beings thought about sex.

Again, it turned what had been an activity -- sex between guys -- into a condition, a medical condition, an illness, a disease, for which doctors would then seek a cure.

And this shift, which was a "paradigm shift," a significant change in cultural norms, coincided with the historical process we call heterosexualization:

the destruction of same-gender spaces and relationships, and their conversion to almost exclusively mixed-gender spaces and relationships.

And this too was a tremendous shift in the way people lived.

And the practical effect of the combination of heterosexualization and the development of the concept of "homosexuality" was to isolate and ghettoize Men who engaged in any sort of same-sex affection, intimacy, and love.

Now -- as we've discussed before, including in from homosexuality to analism, the American Psychiatric Association removed "homosexuality" from its list of mental disorders in 1973.

Which meant that "homosexuality" was no longer a mental illness.

But the concept -- that there was something fundamentally different about "men who had sex with men" -- persisted.

And the result was the categories of sexual orientation, which I refer to as homosexuality's evil twin.

Because, in their effects, those categories are EVIL, and they're DIRECTLY related to the previous categories of "homosexual" and "homosexuality."

So -- "homosexuality" as a cultural concept was originally a condition -- a sickness -- a diseased way of being;

while "gay" is a sexual orientation and also a condition, the idea of which emerged out of "homosexuality," and, which, like the condition known as "homosexuality," is predicated upon the notion that any affection, intimacy, sex, and/or love between Men is a "deviation" from an alleged "heterosexual" norm.

As I said, the concept of "homosexuality" appears as society is beginning to heterosexualize.

While the concept of "sexual orientation" appears as heterosexualization triumphs -- and forces traditional understandings of Masculinity and Femininity underground.

The two poles of "sexual orientation" -- "gay" and "straight" -- work then to drive the male away from his Natural Masculinity:

to divorce Masculinity not only from same-sex love and affection; but also from Aggression -- Fighting Spirit -- Courage -- Virtue -- which is how Masculinity has traditionally been defined and demarcated.

Under heterosexualization, and the categories of sexual orientation, Masculinity is no longer to be defined by Fighting Spirit -- by Courage and Virtue --

but by a single sexual act:

penile-vaginal penetration.

This radical re-definition of "masculinity" is hideously destructive, and many of our modern ills, both male and female, derive directly from it.

I was told that loving a guy was not normal.

Ryan, I understand, but of course the people who told you that were wrong.

In point of fact, both historically and cross-culturally, Men Loving Men has been the norm.

My peers at school started to reject everything appeared gay

Right.

In part, that's because of heterosexism -- the idea that a "real" man is never attracted to another man.

Which of course is a lie.

But another part of it is simply that no sensible person wants to find himself trapped in the "gay" box.

The categories of "sexual orientation" are very confining -- and, again, people don't want to be trapped in a cage or a box.

Particularly not given that that box is associated with anal penetration, promiscuity, and effeminacy -- three social and personal ills that no reasonable person wants in his life.

So -- what's going on is that "loving a man" is defined as "gay," and "gay" is defined as UN-masculine -- not just by the so-called homophobes, but by the "gay community" itself, which rejects masculinity as evil and violent, and instead embraces anal penetration, promiscuity, and effeminacy.

Not good.

and what I could do was to keep my sexuality as a secret.

Yes, and that's understandable.

I think I have gone through everything that most gay teenagers may have.

Ryan, I hear you, but try to understand and ALWAYS be clear that you're not "gay."

You're a Man.

Like every other Man.

Man.

That's the only identifier or "label" you need.

At first, I tried to convince myself that my feelings would soon be gone and my 'weird feelings' are just related to the fact that I love being a man myself. What would come instead would be affection towards women. Of course, it never happened. I tried to suppress my feelings, in the hope that I could become heterosexual, as described in Christian sites.

Yes -- those sites are wrong.

Their basic premise is that Men Loving Men is abnormal.

That's a heterosexualized premise --

And it's incorrect.

Indeed, more than incorrect, it's a lie and a terrible lie.

Which is why what those so-called Christian sites prescribe -- never works -- for anyone.

Again, it never happened. I felt more hopeless when I grew older

Right -- and that's not surprising.

As the enormity of the trap into which you've fallen -- or more correctly, been pushed -- comes home to you -- you feel more and more hopeless.

All you want -- is to be a Man.

But you're told that you're "a homosexual" and "a gay."

You feel -- because you are -- trapped.

And hopeless.

and perhaps because of that I always had a low self-esteem myself. I spoke softly and I walked with my eyes always looking down. My peers at some time began saying that I looked gay. It was a torture.

Yes -- torture is a good word for it.

I'm sorry you went through it.

I got even more depressed whenever I heard of the word 'gay'. One day when I was around 12-13, one of my classmates asked me a provoking question: 'I knew you when you were really young and we grew up together. I knew you were perfectly normal. How come you have suddenly become gay recently?' My heart sank but at the same time I thought about the question. Not until now that I noticed that the time I learnt about homosexuality was around the time I become 'gay', with my declining self-esteem.

Right!

That was a very important realization on your part.

Now people rarely call me 'gay' because I have been trying to avoid everything homosexual and my body has developed into that of a normal man. I have hair all over my legs and a broad shoulder. Someone I don't know even said I looked masculine when my friends show them my pic. It was all about self-esteem and dignity. Without it, a man can never be a real man.

Right!

I also decide to go to the gym and get involved in combat sports when I later enter the university.

Excellent!

Deep down inside me, I always want to be a true masculine man, just like the kung fu guy I saw when I was a kid.

Of course.

I know nothing about anal until I get to know the gay community

Right.

Kids do NOT grow up somehow magically knowing about anal.

Anal is an UNnatural act into which boys and Men have to be acculturated.

They have to be told and taught not only what to do -- but that they MUST do it.

Absent that teaching and that acculturation process -- there would be NO anal.

yet I am not attracted to it.

Of course not.

And Ryan, that speaks well of you.

What I only learn by myself was to rub my cock when I saw an attractive man.

Right -- this is something you learned by yourself, without being taught or being told, because it's NATURAL.

Natural and organic.

I hope I would be considered by you warriors as among you, despite having called gay as a teen.

Ryan, of course you're a Warrior.

Anyway, keep up with the good work.

Thank you, Ryan.

You too!

And Welcome to the Alliance.

Bill Weintraub

So guys, let's look at what we have:

Ryan's sexuality -- not just his same-sex sexuality but his sexuality -- is awakened by the sight of a muscular, masculine, kung fu master -- a Fighter.

And he's fine with it.

He's just truckin along like any other kid.

Until -- as he says -- "I came across something called homosexuality."

And "was told that loving a guy was not normal."

And that monstrous lie starts to corrode and destroy his world.

Ryan, before his exposure to the idea of "homosexuality," is the nascent Hero -- that is Man -- who, in the words of the great mythographer Joseph Campbell, is

the forthright, simple, uncorrupted, noble son of nature, without guile, strong in the purity of the yearning of his heart

That's what Ryan is.

And that's all he is.

A kid trying to become a Man --

who's forthright, simple, uncorrupted, without guile, and strong in the purity of the yearning of his heart.

What is the yearning of his heart?

To become a Muscular, Masculine, kung-fu master like he'd seen on TV -- himself --

and to someday love such a Man.

To be a Man Loving a Man.

That is Ryan's forthright, simple, uncorrupted, guileless, and pure yearning.

And what's done to him?

The forces of society -- primarily in the persons of his peers -- attack him relentlessly and without mercy.

He's told that he's "a homosexual," suffering from "homosexuality," and that his yearnings are "not normal."

Those are lies.

Monstrous lies.

Seeking the socially-sanctioned goal of locking Ryan -- and every guy like him -- into the "gay" box.

For the rest of their lives.

Forever.

Ryan -- much to his credit -- doesn't want to be in that box.

Because he wants to be a Man.

Not a mutilated and negativised remnant of a male --

but a Man.

So he rejects "gay."

NOT "being a Man who Loves a Man"

but "gay."

And regains his self-esteem and dignity.

Let's look at this a bit more closely:

Ryan's Natural Masculinity is first awakened by his seeing a Muscular, Masculine, Kung Fu Master on TV.

And as Ryan describes it, it's a primal Male moment:

A muscular kung fu guy happened to appear with his shirt off in a TV series and he broke a wooden board into two halves using his bare hand. His 6-packs and the way his muscles flexed kind of drove me into a weird feeling. It might not be an arousal, but rather more like affection and it was the time when I still didn't know how to jack off. I looked at my own body in front of a mirror and I told myself I really wanted to look like that guy on TV.

So: the sight of the Muscular Warrior produces affection -- and that word is very telling -- not lust, but affection -- and the desire to emulate.

Ryan feels a completely natural Male Affection for another Male -- a Male whose strength and beauty and fighting spirit he wants to make his own.

Now -- this happened via TV.

In a true Warrior society, such as Sparta's, Ryan would have grown up among Warriors and seen guys in his daily, real, life -- whom he wanted to emulate -- and who would have HELPED him -- become the Man he wanted to be.

As it is, Ryan has to struggle on his own.

And what happens is that his natural desire to Be and Love a Man -- is almost destroyed by the forces of heterosexualization using the *cultural* concepts of "homosexuality" and "sexual orientation -- gay."

But -- though at first profoundly depressed by those concepts, Ryan reaches within and finds the strength to reason through what's happening to him.

And he can see that the source of his misery -- his "low self-esteem" -- as he puts it -- is "gay":

I thought about the question. Not until now that I noticed that the time I learnt about homosexuality was around the time I become 'gay', with my declining self-esteem.

And having realized that "gay" and "homosexuality" are the source of the problem --

he bravely undertakes to reject those ideas -- those cultural constructs.

Now people rarely call me 'gay' because I have been trying to avoid everything homosexual and my body has developed into that of a normal man. I have hair all over my legs and broad shoulders. Someone I don't know even said I looked masculine when my friends show them my pic. It was all about self-esteem and dignity. Without it, a man can never be a real man.

And he manages, with help from the Alliance, to escape the trap of sexual orientation, and retain his "self-esteem and dignity" --

without which, he says, "a man can never be a real man."

A success story, right?

Ryan has found balance and peace.

That's good -- isn't it?

Well, let's be clear:

Despite the plain fact that Ryan has now achieved equanimity in his young life --

for daring to say that he avoids "everything homosexual," there are hordes of gay-identified males who will gleefully -- and viciously -- accuse Ryan of being "a self-hating fag."

That's what they'll do.

And those are the words they'll use.

Actually, what Ryan is -- is a self-loving MAN.

Who quite naturally avoids association with a phoney, pseudo-medical condition called "homosexual" which has NOTHING to do with being -- a MAN --

just as he quite naturally avoids association with a phoney, psuedo-medical condition called "sexual orientation" -- "gay" --

which has nothing to do with being -- a Human Being.

A full and complete human being -- capable of true human intimacy and affection.

The "you're-a-self-hating-fag" crowd doesn't seem to realize just how much of their humanity they've surrendered in their zeal to be ideologically perfect.

But they've surrendered not just some of it -- but ALL of it.

They're no longer Men.

They're "gays."

They no longer make Love Phallically -- with their phalluses.

Instead, they have what they call "sex" -- and which is actually just a fetishized act of pseudo-heterosexual penetration -- with their anuses.

Their shit-holes!

Idiots.

And fools.

They think their shit-holes are -- for sex!

No.

They're for shit.

Ryan understands.

He follows the same road -- the same Warrior Way -- which Men have followed for millenia:

I also decide to go to the gym and get involved in combat sports when I later enter the university. Deep down inside me, I always want to be a true masculine man, just like the kung fu guy I saw when I was a kid.

"deep down inside" is right.

His boyhood *affection* for a muscular Warrior has led him to grow into his own Muscular Man, who plans to train in combat sport --

to fully awaken his Fighting Spirit --

through actual Fighting.

The purest and quintessential male activity.

And the lessons he learns from Fighting -- will stand him in good stead through the rest of his life.

Because those lessons will be joined to Valour and Virtue and Manhood.

Thank you Ryan.

A true Warrior.

Bill Weintraub

April 19, 2009

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Michael Plante

Re: A True Masculine Man

5-24-09

Welcome Warrior Ryan,

It's great to see yet another young warrior.

Yes, unfortunately for men these days there are a lot of forces at work trying to deny men their natural affections and replace it with what is unnatural. One group is up to their armpits in fetish, kink, prada and feces, and the other group is practically foaming at the mouth with such hatred it's a wonder they can live with themselves, so what do they know about men and natural masculinity? Nothing, that's what. These group are enemies of men, and humanity in general, and neither is to be trusted but fought against for the perversions they truly are.

Society, as a whole, is foolish to trust either group in this regard. Since they do trust them, irregardless of which society we're talking about, it's led to society proving that, again and again, when it comes to sex and men they are completely incompetent fools. Society will believe practically anything people say, provided such a person has PhD or MD attached to their name. Society seems incapable of standing up to these authority figures with their false beliefs. I think we've let the loonies run things long enough, and we've seen what they've done.

I'm glad to hear you had the strength to turn away from what was unnatural and re-embraced what was natural again; if only more men had your kind of strength. From what you've told us, you were down, but, fortunately for you, you were not out.

May all men regain what has been unjustly denied them for so long.