Bill Weintraub

Re: To Bond Together in Masculine Love

10-10-2009

Hi Jon

It's great hearing back from you!

Thanks. I really appreciate the help,

Jon, you're very welcome.

That's what we're here for -- to help you and guys like you.

and i read the story about you and Brett, and i'm sorry that you had to endure all of that pain,

Thank you Jon.

but he sounded like a nice guy.

Yes.

He was an extraordinary human being.

Jon, you can read more about him here.

I only wish that the two of you could have met when you both were younger and could have lived long lives together and he had not died of AIDS.

Me too!

I wish we'd met years earlier.

I hope that this site really helps guys like me and you stop all of this butt-fucking bullshit that has filled the minds of today's gay youth.

Jon, the site and the Alliance will help to do that.

Jon, it's difficult to change a culture.

As I discuss on the Regional Chapters page, it takes time to do it, and most of all, perseverance.

But over time, all cultures change.

And working together, we can help influence that change -- and perhaps speed the pace of the change.

And, what's equally important, we can and do serve as a refuge for guys like yourself.

We can support you in your refusal to do anal and try to help you see that there are other ways for Men to exist with Men -- ways that are outside the model presented by analist culture.

I would send a donation, but i don't have a job,

John, I understand.

A lot of people are out of work these days.

A lot of folks are struggling just to survive.

It's sad, and we need to remember that this crisis was brought about by Greed and Selfishness and a blind faith in Markets.

Not God, but Markets.

Those are not Warrior values.

We value Virtue, and specifically the Four Virtues which guided Men for more than a thousand years in the ancient world:

Justice, Courage, Self-Control, and Wisdom.

We speak of Virtuous Virility and Moral Masculinity.

Those are our Warrior Values.

but i've been trying to get one [a job].

Good.

I know it's hard -- very hard -- to find work nowadays.

But, as with most things in life, it's important to keep trying.

I can write, though, and, if you want, i guess i could help write some nice cockrub stories for the other members to read.

Okay.

If that's something you feel you'd like to do -- go for it.

Jon, if you do write a story, remember that we're a Fidelity organization.

So we're looking for stories that lead to two guys being coupled in a Faithful relationship.

No groups, no male three-ways, nothing like that.

Just two guys -- two Men.

Loving each other.

As Men.

Jon, thank you again for your letters.

Bill Weintraub

And Guys --

Guess what?

Jon did write a story, it's called The Plague, and it's

EXCELLENT!

I was really blown away by it.

And it's from that story that the title of this post -- To Bond Together in Masculine Love -- is taken.

And Jon has another great phrase in that story -- sacred battles and sacred sex:

I like that.

So be sure to ck Jon's story out.

Jon is just 20 -- which I know because he has a post in Frot Club.

So in just a couple days, he's made contact with the Alliance, put up two letters in Personal Stories, has a story in Warrior Fiction, and has a post in Frot Club and an excellent profile in Alliance Youth.

Impressive.

Plus -- he sounds really cute too:

Jon

20yr old looking for permanent loving long term relationship with a Frot Man.

My name is Jon. I am twenty years old and I live in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama. I am 5'4'' tall 125lbs, white, have curly brown hair, blue eyes, and am pretty laid back and friendly. I am looking for a long-term relationship with a Frot Guy, one who will NOT ATTEMPT to seduce me into anal penetration. I have a 5 3/5 inch hard penis, and am looking for a guy that will love me and relate to me, and not think badly about me because my cock isn't really all that long...(actually, i rather like the idea of a guy with a cock around the size of mine).

I do like oral...but only with a guy that i have been with a long time and trust.

If you are interested email me

See?

You know, I get complaints that there aren't enough posts in Frot Club.

Invariably, those complaints come from males who NEVER post in Personal Stories and would rather die than donate.

And you know what?

That's what's going to happen to them.

They'll grow old and grey and eventually die -- without ever having known the True and Natural Love of Man for Man.

But at least their wallets will be intact.

They won't have parted with any of those precious dollars.

I always wonder how they're planning on spending their money in the grave.

Buying more worms perhaps?

Maybe some intrepid social scientist or journalist -- maybe the New York Times, which just adores all things "gay" these days -- will do a survey of dead queens to learn just how their rotting corpses are faring -- monetarily speaking, of course.

I know, I know -- it would involve a lot of exhumation of bodies and sifting through ashes -- but who knows what gems, so to speak, might be uncovered for the "Your Money" section of the Times.

The article could even be accompanied by a slide show:

"Jaunty cruises and holiday hay-rides are very in among the dead set this year."

Too morbid for you?

But like Jon in his story The Plague, I'm trying to get across to you that you have but ONE sweet precious life.

And you need to think about what you're doing with it.

You will not get younger, you will get older, and you will die.

The Alliance offers you a chance to LIVE.

If you will only grasp it.

So -- and getting back to Jon and Frot Club -- what you can see from Jon's Frot Club post, is that our posts are QUALITY POSTS.

Yes, yes!

QUALITY!

Sure, I'd like it if there was more quantity.

BUT NOT AT THE SACRIFICE OF QUALITY.

The point to the Alliance is to forge a NEW MAN2MAN culture.

Built not on analist and consumerist values -- but on WARRIOR VALUES.

Jon understands.

Do you?

Here's what Jon said in his profile in Alliance Youth:

I am completely faithful in my belief in Frot. No man should have to lose his masculinity to another man, especially if they think they are making love. Anal sex is one of the worst roads men with men could have made, and the rest of the world is standing by and not saying anything. But we are! We are Warriors! Every last one of us, and we have the power and the knowledge to try and stop anal destruction of the masses before it is too late. Read my story The Plague, and you'll see a sci-fi example of what I mean.

Spread the word of Frot, of the divine love between men, spread the word of how men are supposed to love one another, it is time to stop all of this madness and tell the truth, whether the gay-anal-activists or the religious people like it or not! It's time for the Warriors to make a stand!

"It's time for the Warriors to make a stand!"

Damn straight.

And it's time too for those of you who won't make a stand to admit you're not warriors and you're not men.

You're nothing.

And that's damn straight too.

Remembering that "straight" means Masculine and Masculine means MAN.

Not "hetero" man or "homo" man -- but MAN.

Full, complete, Natural and Organic, MAN.

As we saw in Two Spearmen, Manly Love -- Eros -- is the Love of Areté -- and Areté is Ares, the Warrior God, the mysterious and divine protector of Warrior Spirit.

Warrior Spirit.

FIGHTING Spirit.

Manly Love is the Love of Fighting Spirit.

If you don't understand that, please read or re-read Two Spearmen.

Because in just a couple days on this MAN2MAN Alliance site, John has found his Fighting Spirit.

And now nothing will stop him:

Spread the word of Frot, of the divine love between men, spread the word of how men are supposed to love one another, it is time to stop all of this madness and tell the truth, whether the gay-anal-activists or the religious people like it or not! It's time for the Warriors to make a stand!

Thank you Jon.

You're a true Warrior.

Bill Weintraub

September 10, 2009

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Jon

Re: To Bond Together in Masculine Love

10-12-2009

Thanks Bill for setting everything i sent you up.

I think that maybe it will make a difference.

I sent your web adress www.man2manalliance.com to an old buddy who considered himself Bi...but he hasn't emailed me back yet. But, we haven't talked in months because he's still in school and everything. I'm hoping that maybe this will open his eyes if he takes the time to look, it helped me realize that i was not the only guy out there that did not want to be emasculated just so i could love another man. And i knew that i could truly not love a man like that, which is why i have been against anal all of my life. Love is beyond and greater than a man making a fucking tool out of another person, another man. Love is the glue that binds us Cockrub Warriors together with our mate, Love is everything. And why would anyone want to trade that for a fucking tool?

I'm so glad i've found this site, it is what i have been looking for all of my life, and i think that maybe if we all work together we can overcome the anal mindset. It will be hard, sure, but i think that we all can do it. If all we can do is tell our "gay" "Bi" "Straight" friends and family by word of mouth, then that helps.

I don't think that men realize, in these days, that Frot is perfectly normal, and that the heterosexualization of society has, instead, destroyed the way things are supposed to naturally be. If we can stop heterosexualization, then we can stop "gay-bashings" and possibly even rape and child molestation. I think that if we clean up one mess, we will clean up another too. At least i hope so.

Jon

Bill Weintraub

Re: To Bond Together in Masculine Love

10-12-2009

Hi Jon

Thanks Bill for setting everything i sent you up.

You're welcome Jon.

Your work is excellent!

As is the work of *all* the guys who post on our Alliance sites.

I think that maybe it will make a difference.

Sure it will.

NEVER DOUBT THE POWER YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.

Jon -- this will be a LONG and hard fight.

In this one, the race is not to the swift -- but to the strong.

To he who ENDURES.

You have to persevere.

You have to hang in.

You never give up.

You never surrender.

AND YOU NEVER RETREAT.

At Platea, the Spartans forced every Greek to swear that they'd die before retreating:

You have to have that attitude.

If you do, you'll win.

If you don't -- you'll lose.

It's that stark and that simple.

Jon, I'm 61.

I've been around a long time.

You never retreat, you never surrender.

I'm not well-liked in the so-called gay community.

I don't care.

I'm telling the Truth, and that's all that matters to me.

Besides which, there's no ally more powerful than Truth.

That's why they don't like me, that's why they put so much effort into slandering and censoring and silencing me -- and you too.

They will NOT succeed.

Every post which goes up is a nail in the analist coffin.

Your post today is one of those nails.

Your story is another.

Keep posting.

I sent your web adress www.man2manalliance.com to an old buddy who considered himself Bi...

Good!

That's an excellent thing to do.

Send out links.

Post links.

But Jon, if he's an old friend, why not send him the URL of *your* post?

Make it personal.

"The political is personal, the personal is political."

If you say to him, this is how *I*, Jon, your buddy, feel about anal and Frot -- it's harder for him to ignore or blow off.

Much harder.

He can ignore an article by some internet crank named Bill Weintraub.

A lot more difficult for him to ignore something you, Jon, have said.

So -- when it makes sense to do so, make it personal.

but he hasn't emailed me back yet. But, we haven't talked in months because he's still in school and everything.

Right.

I'm hoping that maybe this will open his eyes if he takes the time to look,

Maybe it will.

Jon, all you can do is try.

Plant a seed.

Even if he doesn't respond today -- you've given him some new information and it may help him tomorrow -- or next week -- or next year.

He may not be ready to hear our message today.

But he will be -- someday.

it helped me realize that i was not the only guy out there that did not want to be emasculated just so i could love another man.

Right!

And i knew that i could truly not love a man like that, which is why i have been against anal all of my life.

Good!

Love is beyond and greater than a man making a fucking tool out of another person, another man.

That's correct -- and well-said.

Love is the glue that binds us Cockrub Warriors together with our mate, Love is everything.

That too is right!

And why would anyone want to trade that for a fucking tool?

Like I said earlier -- Good question.

I'm so glad i've found this site, it is what i have been looking for all of my life,

Great!!!

and i think that maybe if we all work together we can overcome the anal mindset. It will be hard, sure, but i think that we all can do it.

Yes.

Again, Jon, you just have to be clear that it'll take time.

Jon, there is rarely instant gratification in this sort of activism.

People see Obama, but they forget that the anti-slavery movement began in the 18th century.

People see "gay marriage."

But they forget that the gay movement began in the 1950s.

It takes a long time to change a culture.

But there can be joy in the Fight -- too.

Let me talk about change and the gay movement:

I was part of the gay movement in the 1970s and 80s.

It was very hard going.

We "gay acivists" were not well-liked by anyone.

"Heterosexuals" of course didn't like us --

but neither did "homosexuals."

Most gay-identified men thought we were crazy to come out publically -- which basically destroyed our chances of having normal careers and making big bucks --

and to otherwise rock the boat.

Why?

Because if you kept your mouth shut and pulled down a salary and didn't have kids -- you had a lot of disposable income.

So stay in the closet, keep your mouth shut, and SPEND BABY SPEND.

That's how those guys thought.

And that's how they lived.

And then AIDS hit.

And they all came crying to us, oh oh oh, now whadda we do?

But by then it was too late.

They had become infected with a disease which required a heavy investment of government funds to look for treatments and a cure.

And the government, under Ronald Reagan, whom many of those same men had gladly voted for, was not interested in helping them.

Why?

Because they had no clout.

In 1979, the biggest "gay lobby" in DC had just about 9,000 members.

The rule of thumb in Washington at the time was that nobody listened to an organization with less than two million members.

I think that figure is high --

but the fact is that most members of Congress and the Reagan admin felt confident that they could ignore "gay men."

And so they did.

And those men, who had refused to come out of the closet in the 1970s, were forced out by AIDS, and then died in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

That's what happened.

But, and in the meantime, we "gay activists" persisted.

For example, when AIDS first hit, I was involved in anti-violence and self-defense work.

I stayed with it.

And in 1983, I became a founding board member of the NYC Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project.

A project which bore considerable fruit a few days back when the House of Representatives finally extended hate crime protection to gay-identified people.

I doubt anyone remembers the work done by a handful of dedicated activists in the late 1970s and early 80s to establish that Anti-Violence Project.

One of those people, by the way, was, like me, a Frot Man.

I didn't know it at the time, but he later told me that the prejudice against Frot was so great that "it was like never being able to come out."

Yet he was one of the principal movers and shakers in creating the AVP.

He and his lover, who like my lover, died of AIDS, worked endless hours on the project.

Their efforts were of enormous benefit to the so-called gay community.

Even while the Frot guy himself felt excluded from the community.

And once again, after thirty years, their efforts and those of so many others have finally resulted in some big changes.

So: the secret is to persist.

You stay true to what you believe and you fight for it no matter how bleak the landscape may appear.

That's what you do.

And if you're telling the Truth -- WHICH WE ARE -- you will eventually win.

If all we can do is tell our "gay" "Bi" "Straight" friends and family by word of mouth, then that helps.

Yes -- and word of mouth is very important.

Ask any businessperson.

Word of mouth is the best advertising there is.

Nothing better.

I don't think that men realize, in these days, that Frot is perfectly normal,

You're right, many -- probably most -- don't realize that.

Many young gay-identified guys today are exposed to analist propaganda in early adolescence -- on the web.

All they know is anal.

They have no idea about phallus-against-phallus.

and that the heterosexualization of society has, instead, destroyed the way things are supposed to naturally be.

That's correct!!!

If we can stop heterosexualization,

Okay.

Jon, in my opinion, we can't stop heterosexualization per se, because heterosexualization is like industrialization -- it's the result of technological and social changes which we can't control.

It's an historical process.

It just is.

What we CAN do is explain to people what has happened, and explain that people do NOT have to live totally heterosexualized lives.

And we can explain that Men need to be Men -- in their own spaces -- for much of their lives.

And that when Men Love other Men -- they don't need to follow a heterosexualized male-female model.

That that model is DESTRUCTIVE for Men.

And that it destroys Women too.

Because Women become victims of the disease and dysfunction that heterosexualized male-male relations create.

So -- when Men Love Men, they have to Love them as MEN.

They need a Male-Male model -- which is Frot.

And that will benefit Women as well.

then we can stop "gay-bashings" and possibly even rape and child molestation.

Yes.

I think that if we clean up one mess, we will clean up another too.

That's correct.

At least i hope so.

Jon, stay with those hopes.

Stay true to your Warrior hopes.

Stay true to your Fighter dreams.

Jon, you're a true Warrior -- and by posting this email --

You've struck another blow for Frot -- and for Freedom.

And guys, Jon has just added another post to our Man2Man Alliance site and work, titled The Warriors' Call.

It's a call to action and a call to battle, a call you'd do well to heed.

Jon is a young guy.

Don't let his bright dreams and ardent hopes be destroyed by your selfishness and indifference.

JOIN HIM.

FIGHT BACK.

SAVE YOUR LIFE.

Bill Weintraub

October 12, 2009

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