Bill Weintraub

Re: thanks for the revelation

2-18-10

Hey Pierre,

Thank you for this excellent post.

Let's take a look:

I thank you for building the man2man alliance.

You're very welcome Pierre.

I'm glad we can be here for you.

I've had issues with my sexuality for a long time because I wouldn't express masculine affection for some of my friends because I was troubled by anal penetration.

Pierre -- that you felt "masculine affection" for your friends --

and that you were "troubled by anal penetration" --

both speak very well of you.

Why didn't I imagine I didn't have to do it and I could simply forbid it ?

Pierre, I know your question is rhetorical -- however --

there is an answer, and that is that you didn't imagine an alternative because the dominant culture of analism does everything in its power to make sure that Men don't know and don't even attempt to imagine that there are alternatives.

It's anal and emasculation -- or nothing.

So -- as we've often discussed on our sites, a dominant culture functions by censoring and silencing opposing points of view.

And the goal of the culture is to get to the point where members of the culture, and even those on the periphery of the culture, self-censor and self-oppress.

So that they not only don't know, but, as I said, don't even attempt to imagine there are alternatives.

In his great dystopian novel, 1984, George Orwell invented the term "crimestop" for this sort of non-thinking, and described the process as one of "protective stupidity":

[Crimestop] includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc [the dominant culture], and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.

Why "protective" stupidity?

Because by self-censoring, the individual avoids conflict, which is unpleasant at best and often dangerous, with the dominant culture.

And guys, I discuss this Orwellian aspect to analism in Protective Stupidity and The Debasement of Language Under Analism.

So -- when someone like Pierre asks -- and Pierre is NOT ALONE in this -- I hear this all the time -- "Why didn't I imagine I didn't have to do it?" --

the answer is -- because analism wants to make that sort of imagining -- literally UNTHINKABLE.

The analist message is that ALL "males who have sex with males" do so anally, and always have.

That's a complete and utter lie -- but just like the fascists, the analists know that if they repeat it often enough, and *strongly punish* those who dissent from it, most people will believe it.

And that's what's going on.

Anal is a lie, it's a Big Lie, and the analists use Big Lie techniques to promulgate it.

And again, this process is directed not only at members of the culture itself -- who in this case are gay-identified males -- but also among people on the periphery of the culture -- in this case, people who self-identify as "straight."

That's why so few straight-identified people are willing to question anal -- or promiscuity -- or effeminacy -- among "gay men."

They've been taught that if they do that, they'll be labeled homophobic, bigoted, intolerant.

So they learn to keep their mouths shut.

What's the alternative?

Pierre tells us:

A free man can make strong choices.

That's right!

A *free* man can make strong choices.

And that's why the analists fear our message.

As does the religious right.

Tyrannies, including cultural tyrannies, abhor and fear STRONG, FREE, MEN.

Pierre:

I feared [anal] would make me a bitch or butch and degrade me in a morbid passive relationship, just as you describe.

Those fears, Pierre, are rational, reasonable, and realistic.

But you have cut the Gordian Knot and taught me that anal penetration is a lie

That's right.

"anal penetration is a lie"

And we need to be clear that it's a lie which predominates because of analism --

and also because of heterosexualization.

So -- the article to read, if you're not 100% clear about heterosexualization, is Sex Between Men: An Activity, Not A Condition.

Which includes, for those of you who need this sort of motivation, a graphic account of two straight-identified guys' first hot Frot encounter.

And the basics here are that heterosexualization is an historical process -- like industrialization;

While analism, like fascism, is a belief system which arises from that process.

Pierre:

and phallic bonding is good

Exactly.

There's nothing better and nothing hotter between two Men than the exaltation and celebration of their mutual Manhood -- through the Holy Sacrament of Frot: Phallic Bonding.

Pierre:

and I'm very positively hot for it. God bless !

Great! -- And thank you Pierre.

"It's not what makes your dick hard that makes you a man, it's your willingness to fight !"

Right!

Once you understand that, you understand everything.

Bill Weintraub

So guys --

Pierre says,

A free man can make strong choices.

That's correct.

A *free* man can make strong choices.

But to defend those choices -- you have to Fight.

Which Pierre has, by the way.

He's both posted -- adding his voice to those of the thousands of others of strong, proud, Frot Men on this site;

and he's donated.

And guess what?

Since getting involved in the Fight -- he feels better.

When I thanked him for donating, here's what he said:

I'm glad I could help the fellowship. I owe you.

It's been a few days now and I feel much less shy now that I have reconciled with masculine aggressivity.

Those are the words of a Man who's a true Warrior.

First off, he recognizes that there's a Community -- a Warriorhood -- which has helped him, and which he wants to help in return:

I'm glad I could help the fellowship. I owe you.

Pierre is right -- there's a fellowship, and he owes something to that fellowship.

As WE ALL DO.

Every one of us, including me, has been helped by our Alliance fellowship.

We all owe each other.

And we need always and each and every day to think in terms of how we can help each other in this great work which we've undertaken.

Pierre then says,

It's been a few days now and I feel much less shy now that I have reconciled with masculine aggressivity.

So: just the simple act of being exposed to the Alliance on the web has made Pierre more at home with his Masculinity and his natural and normal Masculine Aggression.

And I of course wrote back to Pierre and encouraged him to train in a Fight Sport, such as a martial art,

and cited for him this post from way back in 2001 from a guy named Marc who, like Pierre, lives in France -- and is into judo.

It's a great post -- from another Fighter.

And guess what?

Pierre wrote back and said he'd been thinking of training in a martial art for awhile and "Will probably start soon now that I've connected the dots."

Impressive!

And very good news!

The Alliance has helped Pierre connect the dots -- and he's feeling ready to train.

So -- the Alliance has helped Pierre in the two most important areas of his Masculinity -- which we call Natural Masculinity and Total Masculinity:

• By, as he puts it, cutting the Gordian knot of analism, we've freed him to express his *masculine affection* for another guy; and,
  

• By reconciling him with his *masculine aggressivity*, we've helped him move closer to training in a Fight Sport.
  

And that's exactly and precisely how the Alliance should function.

It should be liberating Men -- to be MEN --

by freeing them to experience the two fundamentals of their Manhood -- Male Aggression and Male Attraction:

So -- we know, from years of experience, that the Alliance, when it can reach the Men who are ready and eager to hear our message, functions exactly as it should.

No question of that.

I've seen it, and presented the evidence of it for you, time and time and time again on this board.

But -- the Alliance rarely reaches the Men it should be reaching.

Why?

Partly because of analist interference.

But mainly because of your unwillingess to do what's necessary for the Alliance to have the impact it should.

Why are so many of you so UN-willing?

There are two pieces to that puzzle:

Fighting and Fellowship.

One of the pieces is Fighting.

Fighting is the name of the game.

If you want to be a FREE man who can make STRONG choices -- you have to FIGHT.

You have to FIGHT for your Freedom and FIGHT for those choices.

And when I say FIGHT --

I mean FIGHT:

And that's what the vast majority of you are unwilling to do -- in any way, shape, or form.

You don't want to fight.

You're afraid of fighting.

Instead, you want everything handed to you on a silver platter.

That won't happen.

Life isn't like that.

And you know it.

IF YOU WANT TO BE FREE TO LIVE AND LOVE LIKE A MAN -- YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGHT.

Neither the analists nor the heterosexists will give up -- without a fight.

Why should they?

Right now, they've got it made, they're on Easy Street.

Admittedly, the street is full of shit and disease and death and pain and lies.

But hey, that's the street they want to be on.

And they've got you there too, little old you, just to keep them company.

FOREVER.

Why should they give that up?

Without a fight?

Will not happen.

You wanna be Free?

You'll have to FIGHT FOR IT.

Fighting is one very very important piece of the puzzle.

And if you won't fight -- you might as well just bend over right now.

What's the other piece?

It's what Pierre says:

Community.

Fellowship.

Warriorhood.

Which is Fighting and Fellowship.

Because, see, if you have to be in a Fight -- it's a lot easier -- if you have friends, fellow Warriors -- by your side.

But community, like fighting, is something else you're afraid to commit to.

Why?

Because you've been taught that selfishness and greed are what matter.

That's wrong.

The credit crunch and the recession should have shown you just how wrong it is -- but you're not learning the lesson.

Instead, even as Wall Street's covetous ghouls dip deeper into your pockets, you yourself are becoming more selfish, stingier, and greedier.

If only, you imagine, you had more money and more power.

Right -- and if pigs had wings ...

But that's not the only problem.

Think about it.

Suppose, if instead of living in a world based on greed -- you could live in a world based on Honor.

As I just posted about in my reply to Warrior NW's wonderful memoir Fighter Beauty, or, A True Test of Toughness, Plato, in his great utopian Republic, said that Sparta was a 'timocracy' - a 'Rule of Honor' -- because it was entirely founded on the standard of Honor.

Timocracy -- Rule of Honor.

Rule of Virtue.

Rule of Valour.

Wouldn't that be better than what you've got now?

Rule of greed.

Rule of Baal and Moloch.

Let me explain something to you.

There's a connection -- we might call it an intimate connection, except that few things are less intimate than buttfuck -- between this:

And this:

That's why those guys are smiling, that's why they have those shit-eating grins on their faces, they're smiling because they know that so long as they can keep you selfish and greedy -- buttfuck will prevail.

Analism -- and all the death and disfigurement it brings with it -- will rule your life.

And that's how they want it to be.

They see your future, and it's full of death and decay.

And that makes them very happy.

Wouldn't it be nice if -- instead of THEM being happy and YOU being UNhappy -- the opposite were true?

Wouldn't it be nice if the forces of greed and shitty misery were losing -- and the forces of Life and Manly Love were winning?

It can be that way.

But for it to be -- that way -- YOU have to change YOUR way.

The way of the Warrior has to become your way.

And the way of the Warrior is community, and fellowship, and Warriorhood.

I just talked about this in my reply to Warrior Brian Hulme's brilliant Eros Day.

I pointed out that I just posted an article which cites *scientific* research stating that those who give -- are happier than those who don't.

Which dovetails with other *scientific* research cited in Austerity and Equality at Sparta, for example, that those who build webs of community in their lives are happier than those who concentrate on acquiring money and things.

This is something the Greeks, and particularly Sokrates, understood.

And before I go any further with that, why should Sokrates matter to you?

Because he lived in a culture in which Men Fighting Men

-- and Men Loving Men

were both honored.

And he honored both.

If you read the Platonic dialogues you see that much of his teaching was conducted at the palaistra -- the wrestling school or fight school.

Which was also where male-male romance flourished.

Not sex but romance and in particular courtship.

Sokrates stood among these often nude athletic youth and young men -- and older men too -- and talked with them about Truth and Virtue.

Sokrates also taught at the symposia -- the all-male dinner parties and/or drinking parties which were also places of male-male romance.

So Sokrates matters.

This is something he said about community vs greed and brotherhood vs self:

A man should concentrate all his own and his city's efforts on this one business of providing a man who would be blessed with the needful justice and temperance; not letting one's desires go unrestrained and in one's attempts to satisfy them -- an interminable trouble -- leading the life of a robber.

For neither to any of his fellow-men can such an one be dear, nor to God; since he cannot commune with any, and where there is no communion, there can be no friendship. And wise men tell us that Heaven and Earth and Gods and Men are held together by Communion and Friendship, by Orderliness, Temperance, and Justice...

Sokrates says: those of you who let your desires run unrestrained -- and then work ceaselessly to satisfy them --

experience "an interminable trouble."

Which is true.

Because there's always another piece of consumerist junk which you think you have to have.

"interminable trouble"

So that you're "leading the life of a robber."

Americans complain of "Robber Barons" on Wall Street.

But too many of you model your lives on theirs.

You don't think there's anything wrong with a system built on greed and constant acquisition of wealth and power.

You just want more wealth and power for yourself.

Yet when Sokrates is asked by one of his hedonist and greed-and-power mongering opponents whether the King of Persia -- who was very rich and very powerful -- isn't the happiest man alive --

Sokrates responds -- I don't know, for I don't know how much nobility, justice, and goodness he has.

His opponent is shocked.

What, he says, does happiness depend upon that?

Of course, responds Sokrates.

The lesson is that neither riches nor power are worth anything to a male who lives a life which is unjust and dissolute:

For neither to any of his fellow-men can such an one be dear, nor to God; since he cannot commune with any, and where there is no communion, there can be no friendship. And wise men tell us that Heaven and Earth and Gods and Men are held together by Communion and Friendship, by Orderliness, Temperance, and Justice...

"Where these is no communion there can be no friendship."

I get letters from you guys all the time telling me how lonely you are.

But you won't commune.

You won't commit to communion -- to Warriorhood -- the way Brian and Pierre have.

Which means you'll always be lonely.

What's ironic is that analism -- which most of you understand, even if dimly, is oppressing you -- flows directly out of the greedy, selfish, and self-centered consumerism of mainstream Western culture -- which is increasingly a worldwide culture.

So you reject -- if you're strong enough, which most of you aren't-- the premises of analism, while feeding daily and hungrily at the corrosive trough of greed and selfishness.

Which means you'll never be free of your oppression.

As I said, this:

and this:

Are inextricably intertwined.

You cannot free yourself of one -- while leaving the other firmly in place in your life.

Can't be done.

So -- there's a very tight relationship between analism and greed.

And you've seen the pictures.

But you've also seen these pictures:

And I'm showing them to you again because these images of Men Fighting and Loving -- which we can think of as a form of fellowship -- come out of a world based not on greed, but on Honor, Valor, and Virtue.

And that's just how it is.

And you have to choose.

If you want this

you have to get rid of this

Because you can't free yourself of anal and analism -- while retaining the ideology of greed, hedonism, and consumerism -- which underwrites and supports it.

You have to rid yourself of both.

And yet you're not doing that.

Case in point:

Since November we've had a Challenge Grant offer from Warrior Tom at the top of the message list in Personal Stories.

Tom's offer is a very generous one.

His challenge to you is to donate.

His offer is to match your donation.

You donate $10, he matches it, and the Alliance gets $20.

$20 to FIGHT the shitsex painsex deathsex brigade and their non-stop stream of LIES -- LIES about YOU and YOUR LIFE.

LIES -- like CockToCock is a fetish;

LIES -- like Dick2Dick is for freaks;

LIES -- like Phallus-to-Phallus is immature and incomplete.

And then there's this one:

LIE -- no real Man wants to or will rub cocks with another Man.

Those are all LIES.

And RIGHT NOW, even as you're reading these words, someone somewhere -- actually many "people" in many places -- are telling those very same LIES -- about YOU.

Whaddya gonna do about it?

Nothing?

Why not?

Like I say, Warrior Tom has a deal for you:

His challenge to you is to Donate.

His offer is to match your donation.

You donate $10, he matches it, and the Alliance gets $20.

$20 to FIGHT the shitsex painsex diseasesex deathsex brigade and their non-stop stream of LIES -- LIES about YOU and YOUR LIFE.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

For $10 you get $20 worth of FIGHT.

For $20 you get $40.

For $50 -- you get a cool $100.

Can't beat that.

Still don't want to do anything?

Here's the reality:

In order for there to be MEANINGFUL CHANGE -- YOU have to CHANGE.

YOU're the problem.

I have filled page after page of this site with discussions of a culture which was Martial, Masculine, and Monogamous, a culture in which Male-Male Love -- EROS -- was the norm, a culture which celebrated Manly Valour and Virtue, a culture in which anal was forbidden and frottage cherished.

Plato:

There is no sort of Valour more respected by the Gods than this which comes of Eros.

When he says "Eros" he's talking about the Love of MAN for MAN.

And when he says "Valour" he's using the word that also means Virtue and EXCELLENCE.

There is no sort of Excellence more respected by the Gods than this which comes of the Love of MAN for MAN.

That's Plato's culture.

That's what it teaches.

Not shitsex and not deathsex.

But the True and Eternal Love of MAN for MAN.

YOU COULD LIVE IN SUCH A CULTURE.

YOU COULD LIVE IN SUCH A CULTURE.

If ONLY -- you would TRY.

To try and fail -- isn't shameful.

But to do what you do -- which is NOTHING -- is beneath contempt.

Are you contemptible?

Maybe all those years of hearing all those lies -- without lifting a finger to counter them -- has left you believing them.

Because when people lie about you -- and you do nothing to counter those lies -- you end up, as the psychologists say, "internalizing" them.

You believe them.

You come to believe that you're an immature, incomplete, fetishistic freak who's not worthy of the word Man.

That's what happens.

That is, as I discussed at the beginning of this reply, the analist goal -- to get you to self-oppress.

To leave you defeated, as Robert Loring has said, in your *own* mind.

The only solution to that -- the ONLY solution -- is to FIGHT BACK.

That's the only solution.

If there was another solution, I'd tell you.

But there isn't.

YOU need to do something, and you need to do it NOW -- TODAY.

Your dithering, your dallying, your stinginess, your selfishness, your greed -- are only HURTING YOURSELF.

Stop doing that.

Start HELPING yourself.

Sunday was Valentine's Day.

If you spent it alone, you need to do something.

My advice: get rid of your cable tv, which is incredibly corrosive, and send the money you save to the Alliance.

You don't want to do that.

You fear that with all that free time on your hands, you might actually have to think.

Fine.

Get rid of one of your premium channels and send the money to the Alliance.

You're going to have to do something.

The idea that you can get there doing nothing -- is FALSE.

That'll never happen.

And it's a shame.

Because you can have a society based on greed -- or a society based on Virtue --

but you can't have both.

And every time you choose greed -- you damage yourself.

The damage builds and builds and eventually it's irreparable.

And that too is why I point to cable tv.

Television is a very potent transmitter of societal norms.

Both the advertising and the programming.

Those norms are detrimental to you.

They're harmful.

Toxic.

The more you watch, the more you're hurt.

Until as I said, you're beyond repair.

So -- the choice is yours.

It's always been.

If you read this and don't respond -- and you remain miserable and lonely -- you have no one to blame -- but yourself.

FIGHT BACK.

DONATE.

SAVE YOUR LIFE.

I thank Pierre again for his post.

And for doing the right thing -- x 2.

When I asked him to post -- he posted.

When I asked him to donate -- he donated.

How many of you can say you've done the same?

Far too few.

And that's the problem.

Until that changes --

NOTHING else will change.

Bill Weintraub

February 18, 2010

© All material Copyright 2010 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.

Brian Hulme

Re: thanks for the revelation

2-19-10

Welcome Pierre

It does me good when I read how MEN like Pierre have found the Alliance and discovered the truth, but did he leave it there? He could have, but he did NOT; no, he went on, he posted, and donated.

Having found his new community he has COMMITTED to that community.

Well done and welcome home! I know you will be happy in this Warrior community -- I am! Only those on the OUTSIDE are unhappy!

Bonjour Pierre!

and Warrior Love,

Brian

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