Potential partners are all around you.

But to reach them, you need to do more than just lurk.

You need to take action in the ways I've spelled out:

• Donate.

• Put a link to this site -- www.Man2ManAlliance.org/ -- on every online profile you have and anywhere else appropriate on the web;

• Come out to your family and friends as a man into Frot;

• Participate in the Regional Chapters

And remember, in your search to find a partner, the CONTEXT in which you're partnered MATTERS.

It matters terrifically whether that context is anal promiscuous or WARRIOR HEROIC.

It MATTERS.

We've seen time and again on this board how difficult it is for guys who are immersed in analist culture to escape that culture and its implications for their relationships.

Because the assumptions made by that culture -- by analism -- are radically different from ours.

Here are just two instances on which I've reported recently:

1. PREP

Analist "HIV prevention experts" think that a good way to prevent HIV infection is to give guys toxic drugs while supporting their continued participation in anal and promiscuity.

I think that's insane.

2. Brit buttboy

In the UK, a buttboy who infected his lover is successfully prosecuted for reckless transmission of HIV; and the UK AIDS establishment protests.

That establishment believes that institutionalized mistrust in the form of the "condom code" is preferable to prosecuting people for acts that are clearly criminal.

What do you think?

What do YOU think?

Here's a line from the great novelist Muriel Spark:

"The price of allowing false opinions is the gradual loss of one's capacity for forming true ones."

In the original context, Spark is referring to people in literary circles who praise a writer's work even though they think it lacks merit.

Over time, she says, one's ability to tell a good book from a bad diminishes.

That's what happens to gay-identified frot men living in analist culture who go along to get along with anal.

After a while, they can longer tell if anal's a bad choice.

Or drag amusing.

Or masculinity a problem.

They can't tell.

Happens to straight-identified guys too.

When they go along with the homophobia in straight culture, they lose their clarity about their own same-sex needs and desires.

That's the price of allowing false opinions to dominate your own.

You need to think about that.

YOU need to THINK about it.

Because you're living in a world in which the medical establishment supports PREP.

And the AIDS establishment opposes criminal prosecution for "reckless transmission."

And there's NEVER any mention of Frot or mutual JO.

And Masculinity is denigrated.

And Bisexuality denied.

You need to think about that.

YOU need to THINK about it.

Bill Weintraub

© All material Copyright 2006 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.

star jaguar

Re: A Tale of Two Tattoos

4-28-2006

Frotting is really the position of making love with another person - not fucking a body.

Guys who can't get off on it are probably fearful or unable to respond to the intimacy. IF you don't have an authentic relationship with person, of knowing and being known, establishing some committment and care, then there is no intimacy. That is promiscuity- sex without love.

If you really are into the person, then it doesn't matter what you do or don't do... Gay men have little or no models for how to create, structure, maintain intimacy with one another. There fore there is a lack of maturity, solation from the culture mainstream beacuse gay men tend to be so egocentric ( self-absorbed), isolated culturally, trying to get their emotional needs met in their non-sexual relationships.

Don't you think?

The model of intimacy is there - it's in many of the stories on this site - of the natural way that boys create intimacy as deep friendship, that naturally becomes sexual but is not based in just sexual attraction. Similar to good hetero relationships - friendship first then love, then committment -> then being there for each other as warriors or something similar.

Playing the playboy game of fuck as much and as many as you can is deadly to the soul as well as dangerous to the body.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Bill Weintraub

Re: A Tale of Two Tattoos

4-28-2006

First of all star:

If you really are into the person, then it doesn't matter what you do or don't do...

Of course it matters what you do.

It matters whether you treat him as a man or as a pseudo-woman.

And it matters whether you treat yourself as a man or a pseudo-woman.

It matters whether you tear and destroy the delicate tissues of his anus and rectum.

And damage his anal sphincter.

Or he yours.

It matters whether you dip your dick in his shit.

It matters.

Larry Kramer speaks of "men into anal" having MURDERED other "men into anal" for the last 30 years.

Here's how that happened:

They told themselves they were "really into the person";

and then they killed him.

It MATTERS what you do.

Everything in life matters star.

It's easy to tell yourself "I'm really into him -- so I'm going to fuck him to death."

That's how half a million died.

Everything matters star.

Furthermore, you're not responding to my post.

I said "YOU need to THINK about it."

What YOU need to THINK about is

the price of allowing false opinions to dominate your own.

You need to think about that.

YOU need to THINK about it.

Because you're living in a world in which the medical establishment supports PREP.

And the AIDS establishment opposes criminal prosecution for "reckless transmission."

And there's NEVER any mention of Frot or mutual JO.

And Masculinity is denigrated.

And Bisexuality denied.

You need to think about that.

YOU need to THINK about it.

So when I say YOU need to THINK about it, I'm talking about cultural change.

And I'm asking YOU guys -- that includes you star -- to THINK about what will bring about cultural change.

Because that's what this site and this movement are about.

CULTURAL CHANGE.

And in order for things to change:

in order to move men away from the APE culture of anal, promiscuity and effeminacy

and to a new Heroic culture of Frot, Fidelity, and Masculinity

YOU HAVE TO ACT.

You can't just lurk.

Because that's what you've been doing for six years and there's been no change.

Except for negative change like PREP.

After six years, anal is more entrenched -- not less.

Guess what?

I'm not willing to sit here for another SIX YEARS while you try to make up your minds to be men.

I won't do it.

Naked Wrestler just got FIRED, in part, because he's into fighting and UFC.

Doesn't that alarm you?

Or tell you anything?

If Naked Wrestler had been a metrosexual into American Idol, he'd still be employed.

FIGURE IT OUT.

Society is NOT trending your way.

star said

The model of intimacy is there - it's in many of the stories on this site - of the natural way that boys create intimacy as deep friendship, that naturally becomes sexual but is not based in just sexual attraction. Similar to good hetero relationships - friendship first then love, then committment -> then being there for each other as warriors or something similar.

Right.

The model is here, right here on this site ...

and NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE YOU WON'T TELL THEM.

So it's a secret.

A big, dumb, dopey secret.

BECAUSE YOU WON'T TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

You'll complain about not having a relationship.

BUT YOU WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

What morons.

YOU HAVE TO ACT.

Right now that means DONATE.

Let's face it, donating is the easiest thing for you to do.

You all have money and you all know how to spend it.

No learning curve there.

If you won't donate -- how on earth can you do anything else?

The other things I've asked you to do all require at least a tad of initiative.

Initiative.

Just not something I can see you guys taking.

So for now you need to donate.

That's why I said -- YOU need to THINK about it.

Do you think you can go on living in anal land forever?

Or in straightboy land forever?

That's where you live.

Half of you live in buttboy land.

And the other half live in straightboy land.

NONE OF YOU live in your OWN land.

NONE OF YOU live YOUR OWN TRUTH.

NONE OF YOU.

And then you wonder why you're lonely.

I keep reposting these words from Robert Loring:

I've read a lot of comments on this site asking how you find a frot brother and where they are at. Truth is they are ALL AROUND YOU because frot is NATURAL to males. Today's males are just too afraid to be NATURAL and they will continue to be afraid until YOU liberate them!

But what's the point?

I keep reposting the words but you're not hearing them.

YOU HAVE TO LIBERATE YOUR FELLOW MEN.

BECAUSE IF YOU WON'T, NO ONE ELSE WILL.

The analists aren't going to turn men onto Frot.

The religious right isn't going to do it.

The mainstream churches won't do it.

The government isn't going to do it.

So who's left?

You.

But you're not doing anything.

That leaves me.

No way guys.

I'm not doing this with NO SUPPORT.

If you want the sites to stay open, you need to DONATE.

BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE THAT ENOUGH OF YOU CARE ABOUT THIS ENTERPRISE TO KEEP IT GOING FORWARD.

Otherwise, it makes no sense to do one thing more.

No sense.

DONATE

Or forever lose not just these sites --

But your one chance at happiness.

Bill Weintraub

© All material Copyright 2006 by Bill Weintraub. All rights reserved.

Robert:

It's never wrong for a masculine male warrior to defend himself BTW. But, it is wrong to just lay down and take all the attacks without doing anything to stop the attacks.

Right.

If someone shoves a shit sandwich in your face, what are you going to do?

Eat it?

That's de facto what most of you are doing.

When what you should be doing is taking that sandwich and shoving it back in his face and forcing it into his mouth and down his throat until he chokes and gags on it.

That's what you do.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, there are true warriors and then there are all the wannabe-warriors who want to sit in their arm chairs observing while doing nothing. The wanna-be's will get NOWHERE! The wanna-be's will eventually become the prey and victims of the man-phobics. It is, in the end, the true warriors who actually DO SOMETHING that will TRIUMPH and, in case you are wondering, when we do triumph we will NOT welcome the wanna-be's into our ranks!! We have NO use for armchair warriors.